[OrRando] Rando History [Was: Nutrition]

joel metz magpie at blackbirdsf.org
Thu May 24 14:00:52 PDT 2007


At 13:42 -0700 05.24.2007, Andrew P. Black wrote:
>Really Joel, it was just an excuse to post the picture.
>
>>><http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~black/Photos/Classic%20Bikes/Classic%20Bikes-Pages/Image1.html>http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~black/Photos/Classic%20Bikes/Classic%20Bikes-Pages/Image1.html
>>>
>
>Note that in addition to the two gears (they were both fixed when I 
>saw the bike, but many years ago one or both might have been free!), 
>this bike is also equipped with wing nuts: pre-quick release days.
>
>On 24 May 2007, at 07:01, joel metz wrote:
>
>>actually, no, cause the "founder" of rando, in many ways, velocio, 
>>was an earyl proponent of them, and the "cyclotouristes" and 
>>"touriste-routiers" of french cycling adopted them as early as they 
>>were available :)
>>
>>
>>it was racers who waited until the 40s to "reinvent" that which was 
>>already available to them :)
>>
>
>I thought that a racer did invent the Quick Release: Tullio 
>Campagnolo patented it in 1930, after a famous episode in 1927 at 
>the top of the Croce d'Aune Pass (in the snow) when his hands were 
>too frozen to loosen the wing nuts that held his rear wheel.
>
>So, who /did/ invent the derailleur? I thought that Tullio's "Cambio 
>a bacchetta" dated from around 1930, and that the derailleur as we 
>know it was also a Campagnolo invention sometime in the 30s - but 
>I'm willing to be corrected.

tullio did invent the q/r - in 1930. the cambio corsa derailleur was 
patented in the mid-1930s, but didnt really come into use until 
postwar times, and even at the point of its patenting, it couldnt 
hold a candle to the shifting abilities of derailleurs like the 
cyclo, which had been commercially available since 1924.

i dont know what id consider "the derailleur as we know it", though, 
as far as the invention of the derailleur goes...

-joel

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