[ORRando] A vote for Populaires - brevet results reporting

Mon Aug 20 14:55:22 PDT 2012

Hi!

While the discussion is focussing on the reporting of results . if the
Oregon Randonneurs is re-examining this issue, they might want to contact
the webmaster of the San Francisco Randonneurs.   They have what appears to
be a very unique way of reporting results:

.        Default is by surname, alphabetical

.        However, by clicking on the headings of each of the columns, one
can sort by alphabetical 1st name A-Z; or Z-A, (handy when meeting someone
on the brevet, but one cannot remember their last name); or by elapsed time
- slowest to fastest and vice versa

For an example, click on this link:
<http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/2012-results.htm#200K>
http://www.sfrandonneurs.org/2012-results.htm#200K

When I spoke to the SF webmaster while riding a SF brevet, he said it was
relatively easy to set up and was willing to assist the BC Randonneur
webmaster, but the BCR Club did not follow up.

Cheers . Ken

Ken Bonner (RUSA #894; UMCA #1698; CKAP #1255; BC Randonneur #219; GVCC #34)

2609 Orchard Avenue

Victoria, British Columbia

V8S 3B2

CANADA

Tel: 1-250-598-4135

From: orrando-bounces at orrandonneurs.org
[mailto:orrando-bounces at orrandonneurs.org] On Behalf Of Susan Otcenas
Sent: August 20, 2012 2:30 PM
To: OR Rando
Subject: Re: [ORRando] A vote for Populaires

>>it might be nice for there to be a place where results are listed

Results from all ORRando rides, including populaires, were published on the
ORRando website through the end of 2011.  That stopped in 2012, but it would
be nice to se it resurrected.  

Michael Rasmussen maintains the ORRando site.  Maybe he can comment on why
ORRando isn't publishing results any longer.

Susan

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From: stasia honnold [mailto:stasiah at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 1:38 PM
To: Susan Otcenas
Cc: OR Rando
Subject: Re: [ORRando] A vote for Populaires

Thanks for sending that, Susan:)

I would also add, if we're applying those points to randonneuring, that
people like to be able to tangibly see their accomplishment. If we are
indeed trying to get more people to try the sport, it might be nice for
there to be a place where results are listed, and not only for people who
are RUSA members (since I'm assuming that many people who try out a
populaire are not going to be members). 

Just a thought. 

stasia:)

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Susan Otcenas <susan at teamestrogen.com>
wrote:

River City Bicycles posted this (below) on Facebook this morning.    It's so
basic, yet we often forget these very simple concepts when we are trying to
encourage new(er) riders to try randonneuring.  (I especially like points 4
& 5!)  To that end, I applaud SIR & it's active volunteers for developing
it's monthly populaire series in 2012, and look forward to seeing more
populaires on the 2013 Oregon calendar.

-Susan O.

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Over the years I've been SLOWLY building up my 16 yr old daughter's interest
in biking, to the point where she really loves it, and has the confidence to
try more advanced rides. Yesterday she did her longest ride, 58 miles on her
single bike (as opposed to our tandem).

On my ride in today, I was thinking about all of the many steps we have
taken to get us to that point. At the risk of stating the obvious, I'm going
to go over a few things that could help you get people in your life more
into bikes- isn't that really one of the big joys of biking?

1. Leave them wanting more! In regards to importance, this should be the
first three points. There is no quicker way to discourage a new rider than
to take them out on too long of a ride, when they aren't nearly ready for
it. Their bottom will hurt, their legs will hurt, and they will not have
fun, or want to go again.

2. Stay away from hills. There will be time later when you can start
teaching them how to do hills comfortably, but do as little as possible
until they have built some fitness and confidence.

3. Never, ever, say 'hurry up! or try to get them to draft, or imply in the
least that it is much less of a ride than you are capable of. Have them in
front, especially on any hills.

4. Mix in ice cream stops, coffee shops, stop at any scenic spots you can,
encourage them to drink and eat regularly.

5. Try to find them someone who they can ride with who is at their own
level. It is super important for people to experience all the levels and
mini-triumphs of biking at the pace they are comfortable with. It's too easy
for experienced riders to forget how much of an accomplishment a 25 mile
ride can (and should) be.

6. Introduce them to organized rides. Don't try a century first! (see #1)
There should be shorter alternatives that are very social, plenty of food
stops, and they will ride with a vast array of cyclists, some of who are
likely slower than they are. It will be a big confidence booster. -Dave

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