[ORRando] When is spring?

Wed Jan 13 19:58:53 PST 2010

Also, there is nothing preventing a group of riders simply getting together and organizing routes/rides (non-RUSA) or riding perms (perms can be organized scheduled any time it is available). While not a RUSA event, we can advertise it on the website. We'll just the the info and contact so that Michael or I don't have to answer queries.

Brevets on the otherhand require: route design (piece of cake), route scouting, route rework, brevet route approvals (2 months), brevet calendar approvals (minimum 5 weeks), publishing and printing new paperwork, finding someone to organize the event, making reservations, finding volunteers, and answering a boatload of questions. 

FWIW.... there are about 150 perms in OR and WA to choose from. Real randos don't need someone to cheer them on, or someone to fluff the pillows. One simply needs to decide what perm(s) to do and organize a group of likeminded riders. There are perms that have never been ridden. You can even go ride at Wenachee Camp this year.  I might go because I'm not the organizer, no one will recognize me sporting my "blue-shirt", I'll probably be off route or hanging around coffee shops rather than checking my watch.

When is spring?

Susan.

-----Original Message-----
>From: John Kramer <jckramer at gorge.net>
>Sent: Jan 13, 2010 6:04 PM
>To: bobbycorno at bendbroadband.com, orrando at orrandonneurs.org
>Subject: Re: [ORRando] ORRando Digest, Vol 56, Issue 5
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>Well, I was going to say that a training camp like Wenatchee would be good. 
>However, early April can be cold and wet and most of the roads above 2500' 
>are likely to have snow. The passes, if open, will have heavily graveled 
>shoulders. Further east is more likely to have less rain and snow. The 
>Dalles is a pretty dry and there should be plentiful lodging between The 
>Dalles and Hood River. I have several 200k routes, a 300k and several 100k 
>routes that are probably going to be open. There are also several two or 
>three day out and backs with overnights at Heppner, Spray or Condon. 
>Mountain biking is huge here in case there anyone is interested in that. 
>There are also some easy trails for mountain bikes for the not so crazy like 
>the 36 mile trail at The Deschutes River by Biggs Junction and the Klickitat 
>River Rails to Trails project. Four or five days of riding is just the thing 
>to help rebuild endurance.
>
>I think what makes the SIR training camp work is there are a large number of 
>riders who like getting together and riding. There is a hotel that offers a 
>rate discount, a small amount of organization with identified routes, some 
>volunteer supported controls, an evening banquet with some silliness and an 
>area with nice terrain and climate. So if you haven't gone to the Wenatchee 
>training camp, you might consider the Wenatchee Camp another fine SIR 
>adventure.
>
>Perhaps if there are some people willing to help create  a training camp 
>down south in Oregon, we could think about what it is and where it should 
>go. I know The Dalles area. It is likely to be dry when Portland is wet.
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: <bobbycorno at bendbroadband.com>
>To: <orrando at orrandonneurs.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 6:57 PM
>Subject: Re: [ORRando] ORRando Digest, Vol 56, Issue 5
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>
>> ...or how about central Oregon?  I've got a bunch o' routes mapped out 
>> over here, and I'm sure the Kramer could come up with some as well.
>>
>> Scott P
>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [ORRando] Fw: BC Randonneurs Cycling Club's Eau de Hell
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>>> I don't know about a full series, but maybe a week of 200-400's
>>> would
>>> be fun.  Sorta like summer rando-camp for adults.  I personally
>>> need
>>> time between brevets to recover/relax/remember just why the hell I
>>> do
>>> this crazy thing to my body, especially when going to the next
>>> distance.  Some more experienced souls might feel differently.
>>> I'll help design courses/volunteer though.  It would be nice, if
>>> one
>>> were to take a week off, to travel to a different part of the
>>> state
>>> than normal, though.  Maybe Medford/Ashland or Eugene based?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joshua
>>>
>>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Marcello Napolitano wrote:
>>>
>>> > Just curious, would there be any interest in us organizing something
>>> > similar here in Oregon, in the coming years? It would be nice to
>>>
>>> > have a
>>> > mid-spring Wine Country brevet week, perhaps with rides starting in
>>> > McMinnville and going to the coast, down the Willamette valley
>>> and/or> towards the Cascades.
>>> >
>>> > Marcello
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Susan France wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Eau De Hell Info from Ken Bonner:
>>> >>
>>> >>
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