[OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge

[Kamp, David]

Well, Phillipe, I like that suggestion very very much.  How many PBPs in the northwest can we dream up?
So how many miles approx would PBP-Bend version be?  Lots of room for adjustments by where in Portland we start and finish, or for how big of a loop of Bend we make, for example.  Just kiss the border or loop the Century Lakes Drive for some additional scenery.  If we generate a catalog of Northwest PBPs, perhaps 600K is a good target, as 1200 k gets a bit unwieldy, organization-wise and participant-wise - too much organization and not very many participants.

Years ago there was this radical ultradistance touring group in So Cal called Wandervogel.  Now it wouldn't be so radical to ride bikes far.  They'd do something like San Francisco to Los Angeles (SFO to LAX, then fly home after loading bike in UHaul truck) over two days (200-250 mi/day) with overnight in San Luis Obispo.  Generally run by two or three crew people and a UHaul, fixing lunch and a couple of soda breaks, then they'd drive the bikes back to the bay area on Monday.  So maximum fun, about 50-60 riders, and minimum orgainzation (1 truck, crew of 3, lunch fixings, snacks, motel reservations, plane tickets, and bike shuttle).  Other rides, Fall Frolic (Sequoia and Kings Canyon parks), etc.  I'd like to revive the concept.  Those guys, Roger Wood and company, have grown up, married, and have little kids and other family obligations, so Wandervogel kind of withered.  Hope insurance and or legal matters don't mess things up.  The point is to ride in a SuperTour type manner.  http://supertour.home.att.net/  Maybe we can learn how to handle ins. etc through SuperTour folks, I know a few.

David Kamp

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From: orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com [mailto:orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com] On Behalf Of Philippe Andre
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:28 PM
To: Oregon area Randonneurs
Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge

Why not be consistent with PBP: Portland - Bend - Portland. Besides there's a McMinamans in Bend
(Susan would like the St. Francis School) and some great beer at the Deschutes Brewery. Just think of the possibilities for the route. The North Umpqua, McKenzie Pass, Crater Lake, etc.

cheers,

Philippe

> From: david.kamp at hp.com
> To: orrando at tire.patch.com
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:02:49 +0000
> Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
>
> PBP, Portland-Bremerton-Portland. This jogs my memory. Couple years ago we mused on POP, Portland-Ontario-Portland, a longer-than-1200K-brevet. But if we started way east from Portland and just kissed the west reach of Ontario, we'd maybe have a cool ride close to the internationally accepted 1200K. Or we could actually start our odomoters after leaving Portland, like Govt Camp, then take extra credit for the P-GovC leg. Well, at least scouting the route would be fun. It's loosely in the late summer credit card tour plans. Anyone game for this, contact me off list.
>
> David Kamp
> E-: david.kamp at hp.com
> Tel: 541-760-5221 (C)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com [mailto:orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com] On Behalf Of Del Scharffenberg
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:21 PM
> To: Oregon area Randonneurs
> Subject: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
>
> Up until the OrRando era, that bridge was part of our annual 600k route, both going north and returning south. From 1987 through 2005 we had our own PBP route (Portland-Bremerton-Portland). As mentioned, STP also uses it, the one day of the year when on a bike you have numbers on your side.
>
> It's not a bad crossing, but does require "sharing the road". You can hop up on the sidewalk if you want to, similar to the Sellwood Bridge, rideable but narrow.
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