[OrRando] Lighting

Tue Sep 18 22:39:16 PDT 2007

The hub pulsates as it is under electrical load when you are in
motion.  It is hardly noticeable on the Schmidt.  It is more
noticeable on the Shimano Nexus.

Another thing I forgot to mention.  The Shimano is a DC system, and
must be grounded out to the frame.  The Schmidt is low-frequency AC
and does not need to be connected to the frame in any manner.

There's really only one reason to choose the Shimano, and that is
price-it's a cheaper hub.  But considering you will be getting this
done as part of a professional wheel build anyways, the price savings
is really not that much, especially considering the drawbacks inherent
to the Shimano.

If you really don't want to go with the Schmidt, a high end battery
system would be a better option than the Nexus, for randonneuring
anyways.  For around town usage, the Shimano would probably be fine.

On 9/19/07, fitzbase at comcast.net <fitzbase at comcast.net> wrote:
> I've never used a generator hub.  What does "notchy" mean?
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Jim Bronson" <jim.bronson at gmail.com>
> > You do not want the Shimano hub if you have a choice.  It has a LOT
> > more drag than the Schmidt and is quite a bit more notchy.
> > Furthermore, if you live in the US, it is not officially supported in
> > this country as Shimano does not retail it here so buyer beware if you
> > have problems.
> >
> > On 9/18/07, fitzbase at comcast.net <fitzbase at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > I'm thinking the Shimano hub, myself...
> > >
> > > Lynne "waiting for that work windfall to happen" F
> > >  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > > From: "Andrew P. Black" <apblack at ownmail.net>
> > > >
> > > > On 18 Sep 2007, at 20:44, fitzbase at comcast.net wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > well, as long as Cecil is asking, I'll add in my question...  Has
> > > > > anyone tried the LED lights?  How do they compare to the halogen
> > > > > lights?
> > > >
> > > > I got a "Light and Motion" Vega headlight last year.  This is one of
> > > > the new generation  LED lights with a single 4W LED.  It is the first
> > > > LED light that I've ever had that is bright enough to ride by.  It's
> > > > a great commuting light, but not great for long brevet because the
> > > > battery is internal: you have to recharge it, not replace it.  The
> > > > battery life is 2 1/2 to 3 hours on bright; it also has various
> > > > flashing and several less-than-bright modes.   (If anyone wants one,
> > > > I have a never-used factory replacement on my desk, which I'm
> > > > planning to sell.)
> > > >
> > > > This spring I bought (from Peter White, although there are much
> > > > cheaper sources on the 'net), the Ixon light. It has a similar spec
> > > > to the Vega, although the beam is less even.  It is also bright
> > > > enough to ride by.  It's big advantage, for brevets, is that it runs
> > > > on four AA sized NiMH cells, which can be removed from the light.  As
> > > > a consequence it is larger and heavier than the Vega.  It has a
> > > > longer run time (about 6 hours on bright), so with one set of spare
> > > > batteries, it will get you though the night.  It can also be operated
> > > > on non-rechargable AA cells bought in any convenience store, which is
> > > > a nice property for a randonneur light.  It has two modes: bright,
> > > > and not so bright, and an LED to tell you which is engaged.  I think
> > > > that German laws don't allow the use of flashing lights.  It is a
> > > > nice commuting light too, and the batteries can be recharged without
> > > > removing them from the light, which is convenient for daily use.
> > > >
> > > > If I ever get to the point of doing a 4-day brevet, I might invest in
> > > > a SON hub.  Or, I might just get a half-dozen sets of rechargeable
> > > > batteries for the Ixon.
> > > >
> > > >       Andrew
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: "Andrew P. Black" <apblack at ownmail.net>
> > > To: Oregon area Randonneurs <orrando at tire.patch.com>
> > > Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:25:33 +0000
> > > Subject: Re: [OrRando] Lighting
> > >
> > >
> > > On 18 Sep 2007, at 20:44, fitzbase at comcast.net wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > well, as long as Cecil is asking, I'll add in my question...  Has anyone
> > > tried the LED lights?  How do they compare to the halogen lights?
> > > I got a "Light and Motion" Vega headlight last year.  This is one of the new
> > > generation  LED lights with a single 4W LED.  It is the first LED light that
> > > I've ever had that is bright enough to ride by.  It's a great commuting
> > > light, but not great for long brevet because the battery is internal: you
> > > have to recharge it, not replace it.  The battery life is 2 1/2 to 3 hours
> > > on bright; it also has various flashing and several less-than-bright modes.
> > >  (If anyone wants one, I have a never-used factory replacement on my desk,
> > > which I'm planning to sell.)
> > >
> > > This spring I bought (from Peter White, although there are much cheaper
> > > sources on the 'net), the Ixon light. It has a similar spec to the Vega,
> > > although the beam is less even.  It is also bright enough to ride by.  It's
> > > big advantage, for brevets, is that it runs on four AA sized NiMH cells,
> > > which can be removed from the light.  As a consequence it is larger and
> > > heavier than the Vega.  It has a longer run time (about 6 hours on bright),
> > > so with one set of spare batteries, it will get you though the night.  It
> > > can also be operated on non-rechargable AA cells bought in any convenience
> > > store, which is a nice property for a randonneur light.  It has two modes:
> > > bright, and not so bright, and an LED to tell you which is engaged.  I think
> > > that German laws don't allow the use of flashing lights.  It is a nice
> > > commuting light too, and the batteries can be recharged without removing
> > > them from the light, which is convenient for daily use.
> > >
> > > If I ever get to the point of doing a 4-day brevet, I might invest in a SON
> > > hub.  Or, I might just get a half-dozen sets of rechargeable batteries for
> > > the Ixon.
> > >
> > >  Andrew
> > >
> > >
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