[OrRando] Nutrition

Wed May 23 16:44:53 PDT 2007

Michael,

I love your ideas, but technology changes things, including the bikes we ride along with the added convenience today of food marts in everything from a bar to a gas station.   

Hmm.. a "Retro Rando" where you can only eat in actual food establishments and have to carry only what "they" did a 100 years ago.   So Susan.....how about a "Retro Rando" in 2008 with no food stocked controls, no clipless pedals, and (what else could be "retro"),  but during the summer so I can ride. (grin)

Cheers

Joe

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Ford 
  To: Oregon area Randonneurs 
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [OrRando] Nutrition

  I don't know, guys. This whole "liquid diet" thing seems to veer way beyond the definition of randonneuring (at least _my_ definition of randonneuring) and perilously close to the domain of ultra-distance racing, or something. To me, part of the pleasure of long-distance, self-supporting cycling is to be able to pop into that out-of-the way greasy spoon and sample some blueberry pie, or stop by a nearby Subway and get a six-incher with extra jalapenos. Even a brown banana out of a jersey pocket is, for me, 100 times preferable to a bottle of some packaged, powdered, chemical Franken-drink, and a simple 50/50 mixture of water and calcium-fortified OJ has probably 90% of the benefits of a commercial sports drink, lacking perhaps only the added protein (which I can get much more pleasurably from a peanut-butter sandwich in a ziploc bag).

  Of course the key to successfully assimilating solid foods while riding is to nibble constantly, rather than eat an actual "meal" at any one time.

  That said, I often bring along drink powders and/or packages of gel for supplements or emergencies. I rarely use them, however, and often end up throwing them away simply for reasons of expired shelf life. Somehow, randonneurs survived quite nicely without these products for a hundred years or so. Unless I qualify for RAAM (not!), I really don't see a need for them.

  Mike
  www.michaelcurtisford.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: daveread at comcast.net 
    To: Oregon area Randonneurs 
    Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 7:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [OrRando] Nutrition

    Hi Ray, I used to suffer from the sour stomach syndrome on 600K+ rides.  I have found the following things helpful for me (your mileage may vary).

    1) Staying away from simple sugars like Coke, candy, cookies, etc. (although I make an exception for chocolate milk).
    2) Limiting my intake of sports bars like cliff bars and power bars.  I still eat them but I try to mix them in with other stuff.
    3) Taking a zantac or something similar if my stomach starts to feel strange.  Peptobysmil tablets have helped too.
    4) Hammer Gel and Perpetum work well for me but I have been thinking about trying spitz.
    5) Eating good nutritious solid foods and staying away from fast/junk food.
    6) I tried the liquid diet thing but found I just stayed too hungry even with enough calories.
    7) Hot coffee can sometimes cause me problems.

    Hope that helps.  Dave Read

      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "Ray Ogilvie" <Lochmond at msn.com> 

       I would like to convert my mostly solid food diet
      to mostly liquid for Brevets of 300k or more.
       What products work best?
       I also suffer from sour/ upset stomach at about
      the same distance (300k).
       Any suggestions?

       Thanks.
       Ray O.

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