[OrRando] RE: [OBRA Chat] Two cyclists killed in Washington County

[Ray Ogilvie]

Yes, I heard the tone that made it seem to be the cyclists fault because they were there. If the car had veered onto a sidewalk or a school playground would it be Ok? 
The cyclists were doing everything right: Riding with traffic, on the shoulder of an unrestricted road, with helmets.
Even if you hit a parked car there is a price to pay, accident or not.
Why are our lives devalued just because we get on a bicycle?

Ray O.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Susan France<mailto:susanfrance at teleport.com> 
  To: 'William Schell'<mailto:bkschell at verizon.net> ; 'Buschman Robert'<mailto:Robert.Buschman at kp.org> ; 'Rowe David'<mailto:david.readytoride at gmail.com> ; Bert Lutz<mailto:bert_lutz at hotmail.com> 
  Cc: Orrando<mailto:orrando at tire.patch.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 10:08 AM
  Subject: [OrRando] RE: [OBRA Chat] Two cyclists killed in Washington County


  Maybe Bill picking up that glass in Laurelwood, and dilleying, was our
  saving on Monday. Along with that delay in starting in the morning because
  of espresso shots. You guys do the math, were would we have been with a 9am
  start and a speedy flat change? Would 5 cyclists wearing neon yellow make a
  difference?

  I'm rather sick knowing the shoulder is really wide in that section of hwy,
  cyclist wear neon yellow, weather ideal, sun high in the sky. Which is why I
  assumed the accident was a car trying to cross near that intersection. So
  far I only heard an interview with an investigator that called it an
  accident and said basically while the cyclists were on the shoulder the
  speed limit IS 55mph...like it's ok to not pay attention if the speed limit
  is 55mph.

  Susan.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Bert Lutz [mailto:bert_lutz at hotmail.com]
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:32 AM
  > To: 'Rowe David'; 'Buschman Robert'; 'William Schell'; 'Susan France'
  > Subject: FW: [OBRA Chat] Two cyclists killed in Washington County
  >
  >
  >
  > In case you didn't see this...
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: obra-bounces at list.obra.org<mailto:obra-bounces at list.obra.org> [mailto:obra-bounces at list.obra.org] On
  > Behalf Of Doug Hormann
  > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 7:33 AM
  > To: obra at list.obra.org<mailto:obra at list.obra.org>
  > Subject: [OBRA Chat] Two cyclists killed in Washington County
  >
  > Sad news.
  >
  > Copied from WCSO press release:
  >
  > The Washington County Sheriff's Office is investigating a crash
  > that claimed
  > the lives of two bicyclists, after they were struck by a car on
  > Highway 47,
  > south of the City of Forest Grove in unincorporated Washington
  > County.  The
  > victims have been identified as Darrel McDaniel, 65, and Sheryl McDaniel,
  > 61.  The Driver of the car is not being identified at this time.
  >
  > Washington County Deputies along with members of the Washington
  > County Crash
  > Analysis Reconstruction Team (CART) are investigating a crash
  > that occurred
  > at 11:45 AM, Monday morning.  The preliminary investigation indicates that
  > Mr. and Mrs. McDaniel were riding their bicycles north on Highway
  > 47, north
  > of SW Anderson Rd. and south of the City of Forest Grove.  They
  > were riding
  > on the paved shoulder, not in the main travel lane.
  >
  > For an unknown reason, the driver of a 2002 Saab veered off the road and
  > struck the two cyclists.  Mrs. McDaniel was pronounced dead at the scene.
  > Mr. McDaniel was transported, via Life Flight, to Legacy Emanuel Hospital,
  > where he later succumbed to his injuries.  Both riders were
  > wearing helmets.
  >
  > Initially, Deputies were unable to identify the victims because
  > neither one
  > of them had any identification with them.  With help from the
  > media, and the
  > Washington County Coroner's Office, both parties were identified as
  > residents of Forest Grove and their family was quickly notified.
  >
  > At this time, there is no indication of alcohol involved in the crash.
  >
  >
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