[OrRando] Permanent Populairs vs. Scheduled Populairs

[Susan France]

We cannot prevent anyone from riding on public roads. But as the organizer I
won't hand someone a cuesheet or card who is not signed up. That is a
liability issue. This events are not like club events where everyone is
welcome member or not.

There is this ACP rule that riders may only ride with other riders
registered for the event. So technically riders signed up for permanents
cannot ride with (as in pace behind) other cyclist not signed up. This rule
goes back to preventing "pacers" on events such as PBP. It gets to be
interesting when your rando event mixes in with something like STP where the
road is filled with riders you are not suppose to be riding with. I think
understanding the reason for the rule gives you an idea what is ok and not
ok. If you come across a rider or group of riders I can see no reason not to
chat with them. If you join a paceline of unregistered riders... you're
breaking the rules.

Susan.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com
> [mailto:orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com]On Behalf Of Todd Trzcinski
> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 9:46 AM
> To: orrando at tire.patch.com
> Subject: RE: [OrRando] Permanent Populairs vs. Scheduled Populairs
>
>
> Is any rider welcome on the permanents if they just want to ride along
> without insurance, card or other registration?
>
> Thanks,
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Susan France" <susanfrance at teleport.com>
> Reply-To: Oregon area Randonneurs <orrando at tire.patch.com>
> To: "Orrando" <orrando at tire.patch.com>
> Subject: [OrRando] Permanent Populairs vs. Scheduled Populairs
> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:23:26 -0800
>
> There are differences between these 2 types of events that are
> not apparent
> to newbies. Actually, many members haven't quit sorted it out
> yet. So let me
> explain.
>
> Scheduled Populairs occur on a specific date scheduled weeks or months in
> advance. They have RUSA board approval. Oregon Randonneurs scheduled
> populaires will be open to all individuals (you do not need to be a member
> of RUSA or Oregon Randonneurs.) We currently have one on the calendar, Mar
> 5, but plan about 5 more in 2006. The key is they are on the calendar.
>
> Permanent Populairs can occur on any date agreed to by the route organizer
> and rider(s). These events (the are events) are covered by RUSA insurance
> and so only RUSA members may signup and ride these events. You
> should never
> see a permanent populaire scheduled on a club's calendar.
>
> Scheduled populaires and permanent populaires can have the same
> route... and
> in fact the Snoozeville Populaire is a perfect example. The
> permanent route
> a few of us plan to ride this Saturday, is exactly the same route
> that will
> be used for the scheduled event.
>
> Susan France
> RBA, Oregon Randonneurs
>
>
>
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