[ORRando] My last word on jerseys.

[joshua]

	I'll respond by saying that my jerseys fit as expected.  I ordered a  
men's Large (I'm 5'10" and about 15 pounds heavier than my ideal  
175lb, too much beer and over-indulging at the dinner table this  
winter :~)  The fit is spot on and I have just enough room for an  
expected <1% shrink.  It is almost unnoticeable to my eye, the  
difference in this and another Woolistic jersey that I have (SIR  
jerseys) regarding sizing.
	As far as the women's jerseys are concerned, Beth should be resolved  
of any liability as she kindly directed me to both the Woolistic  
site(which had no valuable information to go on) and to Lynne, I  
believe, in order to get the fit right for my wife's jerseys.  She's  
5'2" and its impolite for me to discuss her weight, but, suffice it to  
say the she is no Large, which is what I ordered her to be on the safe  
side, knowing that if need be, we could always shrink it, but if it  
were too small, we'd either have to give it to the dog or have  
children.  It fits perfectly but could be longer for comfort.
	I think that we should all be very grateful of Beth spearheading this  
effort.  It seems to me the women's sizing issues are without a doubt  
a Woolistic customer service issue and quality issue and should be  
treated as such.  But, it sounds as though Woolistic is at least  
addressing the problem, which is great.
	I'm sorry to those who mistakenly ordered the wrong sizes and I hope  
that the problem is resolved by Woolistic amicably.

- happily typing this in my ORRANDO woolistic jersey,
cheers,
Joshua Bryant
PDX, OR USA



On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:40 PM, b hamon wrote:

>
> Dear Randonneurs:
>
> this is my last word to the list about jerseys. Please read carefully.
>
> 1. Alex called me at work today and we spoke about what had  
> happened. Based on (a) my total lack of history with both Oregon  
> Randonneurs AND Portland Velo jersey orders, I gave the list the  
> link to Woolistc's sizing chart, which at the time reflected sizing  
> ONLY for the mens' jerseys.
>
> There was NO womens' specific sizing chart at that link.
>
> Lynne came up with a sizing chart that had also come from Woolistic.  
> It had apparently been used for the Portland Velo jersey order. By  
> all accounts, people who'd ordered Portland Velo jerseys from  
> Woolistic were happy with them. I had no reason to suspect that  
> anything was amiss.
>
> I believe that this was the chart used by the handful of women who  
> ordered womens' specific jerseys. The Portland Velo chart, however,  
> indicated "custom" sizing that had been requested for Portland  
> Velo's jerseys. This sizing chart was never used again by Woolistic  
> for any future womens' specific jerseys. Alex took some time to  
> explain all of this to me, time I didn't really have to spare  
> because I was at work.
>
> 2. Between this morning and this evening I have received a dozen  
> emails from worried people who wonder if their jerseys will fit.
>
> Allow me to clarify. The sizing chart issues pertain ONLY to womens'  
> specific sizing. ALL MENS' JERSEYS WERE MADE TRUE TO SIZE USING A  
> SIZE CHART THAT HAS BEEN IN PLACE AT WOOLISTIC FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
>
> If you ordered a mens' jersey you should expect it to fit like a  
> mens' jersey with no problems. In fact, so far the overwhelming  
> majority of the men who've received jerseys and have emailed me have  
> had nothing but good things to say about their jerseys.
>
> 3. Exactly THREE MEN who ordered jerseys have had fit issues with  
> them. I will be happy to work with the two who were nice enough to  
> keep their cool and to remember that I was not responsible for this  
> issue. As for the third fellow who called me at home tonight and  
> literally *yelled* at me over the phone, please don't call me again.
>
> 4. Please do NOT email or call me with any more angry complaints  
> about the mens' jersey order. I did not mislead anyone into ordering  
> the wrong size, nor did I do anything else wrong. The handful of you  
> who have called or emailed to specifically blame ME have frankly  
> made this experience more of a drag than it needed to be, and have  
> made me a little leery of volunteering my time again in the future.
>
> I have been in contact with those whose WOMENS' specific jerseys  
> aren't fitting. Woolistic and I ARE wokring with the women who need  
> different jersey sizes. The matter WILL be resolved.
>
> Thank you.
> Beth
>
> http://bikelovejones.livejournal.com
> http://veloquent.blogspot.com
>
>
>
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