[OrRando] Re: OrRando Digest, Vol 34, Issue 15

Thu Mar 27 07:43:44 PDT 2008

...or how about Prineville-Baker-Prineville?

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>   1. SPAM: Looking for RAAM Crew Member(s) (Dread Pirate Kermit)
>   2. RE: Re: Longview Bridge (Philippe Andre)
>   3. RE: Re: Longview Bridge (Susan France)
>   4. Remove from distro (Jim Julien)
>   5. RE: Re: Longview Bridge (D. Jason Penney)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:17:23 -0700
> From: "Dread Pirate Kermit" <frogpirate at gmail.com>
> Subject: [OrRando] SPAM: Looking for RAAM Crew Member(s)
> To: "Oregon area Randonneurs" <orrando at tire.patch.com>
> Cc: david.holt at oneilsoft.com, Lisa Kienle <LKienle at gwi.com>
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> I hope it is OK to post this here, I am trying to help a genuine Nice
> Guy find a few more crew members.
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> David Holt rode in the Race Across Oregon in 2006, finishing 2nd. In
> '07 while training for RAAM he hurt his back and had to withdraw.
> Lucky for us, as we were short of crew for RAO, and on Friday we found
> out he was able to help Lisa and I (aka Candy Ass Llama's) crew for
> rider Al Smudz. Al went on to win RAO and  Lisa, David and I became
> friends.
>
> David is once again training for RAAM and this year his back is doing
> just fine. Lisa has signed up as crew and he has a couple of other
> "sure" crew members as well as a couple of "maybes". He really needs
> one or two more "sure" crew members. Unfortunately, I have a new job,
> no vacation time and so have been relegated to designated cat sitter.
> :(
>
> If you have ever thought of racing RAAM here is a great chance to get
> some actual experience with the course and see what it is like from
> the "other side" of the van. If you are a RAAM finisher here is a
> chance to help a rookie earn his ring!
>
> Please contact David directly @ david.holt at oneilsoft.com.
>
> Thanks, Ken
> (No RAAM aspirations, thank you very much.)
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:52:01 +0000
> From: Philippe Andre <philippe_cycliste at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
> To: Oregon area Randonneurs <orrando at tire.patch.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY111-W34D16142E6E2FF5C5CD4719FFF0 at phx.gbl>
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> David asked the Question:  How many PBPs in the northwest can we dream up?
> =
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> P-Bandon-P
> P-Brookings-P
> P-Baker City-P
> P-Burns-P
> P-Biggs-P
> P-Beaverton-P (yuk!)
> =
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> 600 is a good target...or what about a selection of 1000 routes to choose 
> f=
> rom for an annual unsupported OR1000? =
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> From: david.kamp at hp.comTo: orrando at tire.patch.comDate: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 
> 22:=
> 52:10 +0000Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
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> Well, Phillipe, I like that suggestion very very much.  How many PBPs in 
> th=
> e northwest can we dream up?
> So how many miles approx would PBP-Bend version be?  Lots of room for 
> adjus=
> tments by where in Portland we start and finish, or for how big of a loop 
> o=
> f Bend we make, for example.  Just kiss the border or loop the Century 
> Lake=
> s Drive for some additional scenery.  If we generate a catalog of 
> Northwest=
> PBPs, perhaps 600K is a good target, as 1200 k gets a bit unwieldy, 
> organi=
> zation-wise and participant-wise - too much organization and not very many 
> =
> participants.
> =
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> Years ago there was this radical ultradistance touring group in So Cal 
> call=
> ed Wandervogel.  Now it wouldn't be so radical to ride bikes far.  They'd 
> d=
> o something like San Francisco to Los Angeles (SFO to LAX, then fly home 
> af=
> ter loading bike in UHaul truck) over two days (200-250 mi/day) with 
> overni=
> ght in San Luis Obispo.  Generally run by two or three crew people and a 
> UH=
> aul, fixing lunch and a couple of soda breaks, then they'd drive the bikes 
> =
> back to the bay area on Monday.  So maximum fun, about 50-60 riders, and 
> mi=
> nimum orgainzation (1 truck, crew of 3, lunch fixings, snacks, motel 
> reserv=
> ations, plane tickets, and bike shuttle).  Other rides, Fall Frolic 
> (Sequoi=
> a and Kings Canyon parks), etc.  I'd like to revive the concept.  Those 
> guy=
> s, Roger Wood and company, have grown up, married, and have little kids 
> and=
> other family obligations, so Wandervogel kind of withered.  Hope 
> insurance=
> and or legal matters don't mess things up.  The point is to ride in a 
> Supe=
> rTour type manner.  http://supertour.home.att.net/  Maybe we can learn how 
> =
> to handle ins. etc through SuperTour folks, I know a few.
> =
>
> David Kamp
>
>
> From: orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com 
> [mailto:orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com=
> ] On Behalf Of Philippe AndreSent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:28 PMTo: 
> Ore=
> gon area RandonneursSubject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
> Why not be consistent with PBP: Portland - Bend - Portland. Besides 
> there's=
> a McMinamans in Bend(Susan would like the St. Francis School) and some 
> gre=
> at beer at the Deschutes Brewery. Just think of the possibilities for the 
> r=
> oute. The North Umpqua, McKenzie Pass, Crater Lake, etc. cheers, Philippe> 
> =
> From: david.kamp at hp.com> To: orrando at tire.patch.com> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 
> 2008=
> 19:02:49 +0000> Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge> > PBP, 
> Portlan=
> d-Bremerton-Portland. This jogs my memory. Couple years ago we mused on 
> POP=
> , Portland-Ontario-Portland, a longer-than-1200K-brevet. But if we started 
> =
> way east from Portland and just kissed the west reach of Ontario, we'd 
> mayb=
> e have a cool ride close to the internationally accepted 1200K. Or we 
> could=
> actually start our odomoters after leaving Portland, like Govt Camp, then 
> =
> take extra credit for the P-GovC leg. Well, at least scouting the route 
> wou=
> ld be fun. It's loosely in the late summer credit card tour plans. Anyone 
> g=
> ame for this, contact me off list.> > David Kamp> E-: david.kamp at hp.com> 
> Te=
> l: 541-760-5221 (C)> > -----Original Message-----> From: 
> orrando-bounces at ti=
> re.patch.com [mailto:orrando-bounces at tire.patch.com] On Behalf Of Del 
> Schar=
> ffenberg> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:21 PM> To: Oregon area 
> Randonneur=
> s> Subject: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge> > Up until the OrRando era, 
> that=
> bridge was part of our annual 600k route, both going north and returning 
> s=
> outh. From 1987 through 2005 we had our own PBP route 
> (Portland-Bremerton-P=
> ortland). As mentioned, STP also uses it, the one day of the year when on 
> a=
> bike you have numbers on your side.> > It's not a bad crossing, but does 
> r=
> equire "sharing the road". You can hop up on the sidewalk if you want to, 
> s=
> imilar to the Sellwood Bridge, rideable but narrow.> > 
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> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:56:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Susan France <susanfrance at teleport.com>
> Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
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> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 18:03:43 -0700
> From: Jim Julien <julien8540 at comcast.net>
> Subject: [OrRando] Remove from distro
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> Could you please remove my address from your distribution. Thank you.
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> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:18:55 -0700
> From: "D. Jason Penney" <jason.penney at verizon.net>
> Subject: RE: [OrRando] Re: Longview Bridge
> To: "'Oregon area Randonneurs'" <orrando at tire.patch.com>
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> Susan wrote:
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> P-Beaverton-P (yuk!)
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> How about,
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> Prineville-Beaverton-Prineville?  :-)
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