[OrRando] i am now prepped for the nighttime populaire...

joel metz magpie at blackbirdsf.org
Sun Apr 16 02:28:59 PDT 2006


the high wheeler makes a fine high wheeler. no sense improving on it.

however, it makes a lousy pneumatic safety.

-joel


>"but then again, improving on simple things that work aint exactly my bag
>:)"
>Then everything since the very simple and functional high wheeler?
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "joel metz" <magpie at blackbirdsf.org>
>To: "Oregon area Randonneurs" <orrando at tire.patch.com>
>Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 4:11 PM
>Subject: Re: [OrRando] i am now prepped for the nighttime populaire...
>
>
>>  >for me, it falls in the category of "if it aint broke, dont fix it"
>>  >To which I would respond, it does not have to be bad to get better
>>
>>  oh true - but then again, improving on simple things that work aint
>>  exactly my bag :)
>>
>>  >"since production carbon fiber frames and forks were first built in 1975"
>>  >I figured someone would point that out, so what do you think they would
>>  >have
>>  >said 40 years ago?
>>
>>  how about "well, they did it with wood in the 1890s..." :)
>>
>>  -joel
>>
>>  >
>>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >From: "joel metz" <magpie at blackbirdsf.org>
>>  >To: "Oregon area Randonneurs" <orrando at tire.patch.com>
>>  >Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 10:26 PM
>>  >Subject: Re: [OrRando] i am now prepped for the nighttime populaire...
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >>  spade connectors arent waterproof, but water isnt a significant issue
>>  >>  with them, in my experience. in 8 years of constant daily usage with
>>  >>  a schmidt, ive never had problem one with spade connectors, and i
>>  >>  daresay theyve been through worse in those years than most will see
>>  >>  in a lifetime. i honestly dont see the failure that susan had as that
>>  >>  big an issue, seeing as its the only time ive yet to hear someone
>>  >>  mentioning this actually happening, and ive been using schmidts
>>  >>  pretty much since they came into production. i probably dont
>>  >>  disconnect mine nearly as much as susan does, but ive certainly been
>>  >>  *far* from gentle/careful with them. for me, it falls in the category
>>  >>  of "if it aint broke, dont fix it"
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>  -joel
>>  >>
>>  >>  >You are seeing the world as it is, I'm talking about the way it could
>>  >> be.
>>  >>  >Keep in mind spade connectors are not water proof either, try to
>>  >> think
>>  >>  >outside the box and you too will be able to imagine something more
>>  >>  >durable
>>  >>  >and less susceptible to fatigue.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >Think of what design engineers might have said 20 years ago about a
>>  >> fork
>>  >>  >(never mind a frame) made with no metal in it.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >>  >From: "Michael Rasmussen" <mikeraz at patch.com>
>>  >>  >To: "Oregon area Randonneurs" <orrando at tire.patch.com>
>>  >>  >Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 4:45 PM
>>  >>  >Subject: Re: [OrRando] i am now prepped for the nighttime
>>  >> populaire...
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  paul johnson wrote:
>>  >>  >>  > it would be only a matter of a short time before they came out
>>  >> with
>>  >>  >> some
>>  >>  >>  > equally elegant and functional fix, like a quarter turn quick
>>  >>  >> disconnect
>>  >>  >>  > coaxial
>>  >>  >>  > coupling.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  A quarter turn quick disconnect coax coupling isn't waterproof.
>>  >> It
>>  >>  >> isn't
>>  >>  >>  even
>>  >>  >>  water resistant.   Being out in the weather makes the low tech but
>>  >>  >> proven
>>  >>  >>  spade connectors a reasonable solution.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
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